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      <title>New tribe against the occupation of Afghanistan</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;New tribe against the occupation of Afghanistan
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/outnow#
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&lt;br/&gt;Massive U.S. intervention in Afghanistan began in 1978 and continues to this day. The ongoing war in Afghanistan continues to kill thousands of Afghan civilians and cause extreme suffering due to horrendous injuries, the displacement of people from their homes and livelihoods, home invasions, sexual abuse, arbitrary arrests and torture, and the general humiliation of the Afghani people. 
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&lt;br/&gt;As this author stated for Liberation News on September 12, 2001: 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Americans watched in horror as the World Trade Center collapsed. Yet it was a horror no different from what the U.S. government has done with it's bombing of civilian populations in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Korea. The U.S. bombings of just these countries, not to mention many other U.S. acts of war, murdered millions of civilians. Terror against civilians is never justified… 
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&lt;br/&gt;“Today the clerical fascists of the Taliban rule Afghanistan. The CIA put them in power with billions of dollars in U.S. military aid. This massive U.S. intervention in Afghanistan was in opposition to the revolutionary PDPA government that came to power in 1978 on issues of promoting women’s rights and land reform. Literacy campaigns began teaching the poor and women how to read and write. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Foreign religious fanatics and wealthy defenders of the old feudal system came together in a terrorist organization called the Mujahideen. With billions of dollars in assistance from the U.S. [starting under the Jimmy Carter presidency] these fanatical cutthroats waged a holy war that included killing women for teaching little girls how to read and write and throwing acid into the faces of women who had become liberated from the veil. The Taliban came to power as a result of this U.S. intervention. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Will a U.S. war now against the Taliban and former CIA aid recipient Osama Bin Laden set things straight? No. It will be the people of Afghanistan who suffer death and destruction from war as the U.S. attempts to install a puppet government friendly to U.S. corporate [oil pipeline] interests.” Steven Argue, Liberation News, September 12, 2001
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&lt;br/&gt;The Taliban was put in power by U.S. intervention. U.S. occupation today is a cause for war and continues to keep an extremely reactionary religious government in power. Afghanistan had secular governments with much wider women's rights before the U.S. began its massive intervention in Afghanistan in the 1970's. All U.S. imposed governments have been religious and anti-women. In Afghanistan, the Afghanis are better qualified to solve the problems caused by U.S. imperialism than U.S. imperialism is.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Yet rather than get out of Afghanistan Obama and McCain are proposing more troops, more helicopters, and more war.  
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&lt;br/&gt;NO TO THE BIPARTISAN OCCUPATION OF AFGHANISTAN!!!!
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&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA and MCCAIN'S PROPOSED SURGE IN AFGHANISTAN!  
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&lt;br/&gt;U.S. OUT OF AFGHANISTAN NOW!
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&lt;br/&gt;*~U.S. and Allies Out of Afghanistan!!~*
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/outnow#&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:17:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Anarchists are not Socialists</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;It is my opinion, and I am open to debate about this, that anarchists (despite a common origin in the 1800's) not the same, and are fundimentally opposed to each other because of the structure Socialism requires be imposed for its implimentation. Some anarchists I have discussed this with agree, while others disagree. I would like to hear some other opinions.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:55:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Obama Lays Out Plans for Continued War</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Obama Lays Out Plans for Continued War
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;By Steven Argue
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In a July 14, 2008 New York Times Op Ed, Barack Obama says:
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&lt;br/&gt;"As I’ve said many times, we must be as careful getting out of Iraq as we were careless getting in. We can safely redeploy our combat brigades at a pace that would remove them in 16 months. That would be the summer of 2010 — two years from now, and more than seven years after the war began. After this redeployment, a residual force in Iraq would perform limited missions: going after any remnants of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, protecting American service members and, so long as the Iraqis make political progress, training Iraqi security forces."
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&lt;br/&gt;In other words, he does not plan to get all of the troops out of Iraq and he will only get most of the troops out in two years.  And what does he explain he will do with these troops?  Redeploy them.  Redeployed where?  His rhetoric has been clear: Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Obama goes on to call for a surge in Afghanistan as well as war in Pakistan:
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&lt;br/&gt;"Ending the war [in Iraq] is essential to meeting our broader strategic goals, starting in Afghanistan and Pakistan [...] As president, I would pursue a new strategy, and begin by providing at least two additional combat brigades to support our effort in Afghanistan. We need more troops, more helicopters [...]"
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. intervention has also been very bad for the people of Pakistan. It is US intervention that has kept a long series of dictators in power there. The US has no right to intervene against those fighting that dictatorship that it labels "terrorists". Likewise, it is US intervention in support of a long series of Pakistani dictators that is the cause of Bhutto's death, brutal repression against the majority, exploitation, and poverty, all of which has resulted in rebellion against the Pakistani government. The US has already harmed the Pakistani people enough with massive aid to dictators and would do more harm by sending in troops. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA’S PROPOSED MILITARY INTERVENTION IN PAKISTAN!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Massive U.S. intervention in Afghanistan began in 1978 and continues to this day. The ongoing war in Afghanistan continues to kill thousands of Afghan civilians and cause extreme suffering due to horrendous injuries, the displacement of people from their homes and livelihoods, home invasions, sexual abuse, arbitrary arrests and torture, and the general humiliation of the Afghani people. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As this author stated for Liberation News on September 12, 2001: 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Americans watched in horror as the World Trade Center collapsed. Yet it was a horror no different from what the U.S. government has done with it's bombing of civilian populations in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and Korea. The U.S. bombings of just these countries, not to mention many other U.S. acts of war, murdered millions of civilians. Terror against civilians is never justified… 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Today the clerical fascists of the Taliban rule Afghanistan. The CIA put them in power with billions of dollars in U.S. military aid. This massive U.S. intervention in Afghanistan was in opposition to the revolutionary PDPA government that came to power in 1978 on issues of promoting women’s rights and land reform. Literacy campaigns began teaching the poor and women how to read and write. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Foreign religious fanatics and wealthy defenders of the old feudal system came together in a terrorist organization called the Mujahideen. With billions of dollars in assistance from the U.S. [starting under the Jimmy Carter presidency] these fanatical cutthroats waged a holy war that included killing women for teaching little girls how to read and write and throwing acid into the faces of women who had become liberated from the veil. The Taliban came to power as a result of this U.S. intervention. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Will a U.S. war now against the Taliban and former CIA aid recipient Osama Bin Laden set things straight? No. It will be the people of Afghanistan who suffer death and destruction from war as the U.S. attempts to install a puppet government friendly to U.S. corporate (oil) interests.” Steven Argue, Liberation News, September 12, 2001
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Taliban was put in power by U.S. intervention. U.S. occupation today is a cause for war and continues to keep an extremely reactionary religious government in power. Afghanistan had secular governments with much wider women's rights before the U.S. began its massive intervention in Afghanistan in the 1970's. All U.S. imposed governments have been religious and anti-women. In Afghanistan, the Afghanis are better qualified to solve the problems caused by U.S. imperialism than U.S. imperialism is.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Yet rather than get out of Afghanistan Obama is proposing more troops, more helicopters, and more war.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA”S PROPOSED SURGE IN AFGHANISTAN!  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. OUT OF AFGHANISTAN NOW!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, at AIPAC, Obama’s speech laid the groundwork for war with Iran: 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. [...] The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.”
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&lt;br/&gt;A war on a major oil producing nation under the imperialist excuse of weapons of mass destruction.  Sound familiar?  Bush would have a good case for a charge of plagiarism against Obama.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And what will the Iranians think of more imperialist intervention?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In 1953 the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Mohammed Mossadegh in Iran and put the brutal dictatorship of the Shah in power.  Mossadegh had plans to nationalize the Iranian oil fields, a plan that would have taken a good chunk of the oil profits out of the private control of major international oil companies.  Such nationalizations have greatly helped people in other countries, such as Venezuela, where oil wealth is used to better the conditions of the poor and provide needed programs like healthcare.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The CIA sponsored overthrow of the Mossadegh government paved the way for 26 years of dictatorship under the U.S. backed Shah.  Freedom of speech did not exist under the Shah, and the CIA participated in the torture of political opponents to the Shah.  Meanwhile, U.S. oil corporations made massive profits from Iranian oil while the vast majority of the Iranian people lived in extreme poverty and did not benefit from the oil wealth. 
&lt;br/&gt;   
&lt;br/&gt;The Iranian people rightly saw the Shah as a puppet of U.S. imperialism, and finally overthrew his dictatorship in 1979.  Unfortunately, repression was so bad under the Shah that the only place that people could organize opposition was in the Mosques.  This gave the Mullahs a tremendous advantage in taking control of the revolution.  The Islamic nature of the revolution led to a deterioration of women's rights and socialists, many of whom had naively supported the Islamic Revolution, were executed by the clerical fascist state.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Despite the brutal nature of the new Iranian government, in that respect the same as the old regime the U.S. had supported, the U.S. was not satisfied.  The new regime nationalized the Iranian oil fields under government control.  In addition, the new government was full of anti-imperialist rhetoric and took American hostages; a natural result of 26 years of U.S. imposed dictatorship and exploitation.  The U.S. government hated the Iranian revolution most for nationalizing the oil, and they feared that the Iranian Revolution may become an influence for similar anti-imperialist revolutions in the region.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As a result, the U.S. encouraged then ally, Saddam Hussein to send Iraqi troops to invade Iran.  During the war, the U.S. armed both sides, but most armed Iraq and provided Iraq with military intelligence.  The Iraqi invasion of Iran began on September 22, 1980 and the war continued until 1988.  As a result of the war, between half million and a million and a half people died.  This U.S. support to Iraq also helped enable Iraq to murder between 50,000 and 100,000 Kurds in the Anfal campaign of 1988.  At the time, the U.S. corporate media was silent about this crime, and only exposed it later when U.S. alliances changed.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So U.S. intervention against Iran imposed decades of dictatorship, repression, war, exploitation, poverty, and, just in the Iran-Iraq war alone, the deaths of around a million Iranian people.  Like Iraq, U.S. troops on the ground in Iran will not be treated as liberators.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Iranian working class has many scores to settle with their Iranian rulers, but as bad as the current regime in Iran is, Iranians need only look across the border into Iraq to see that U.S. occupation will be much worse.  War, a puppet capitalist regime, a million dead, torture, millions of refugees, and an occupier mainly interested in privatization to loot resources.  As Iraq shows, there is no liberation at the hands of U.S. occupation.  And as the CIA’s Shah showed, there is no liberation under a U.S. imposed puppet.  Only anti-imperialist socialist revolution can begin to solve the problems faced by women, ethnic minorities, and the working class of Iran. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA’S THREATS AGAINST IRAN!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. HANDS OFF IRAN!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Iraq, Obama has never promised to fully withdraw.  In a debate in September 2007, when asked if he would have U.S. troops out of Iraq by 2013 Barack Obama said "I believe that we should have all our troops out by 2013, but I don't want to make promises not knowing what the situation's going to be three or four years out." ("The Democratic Presidential Debate on MSNBC", New York Times 9/26/07).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The U.S. must leave by air, sea, and land as quickly as possible. U.S. imperialism has created a horrible situation, but that is no excuse to stay, and U.S. troops, Halliburton, etc. are only making matters worse. Over a million Iraqis are dead. These deaths are not just caused by the civil war that the U.S. has ignited, nor are they just caused by the death-squad government that the U.S. has put in power. U.S. guns and bombers are also the direct cause of a large number of deaths. Iraq needs to be turned over to the Iraqi people through immediate withdrawal.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, Obama has directly supported the U.S. war and occupation of Iraq by voting in the Senate to fund it.  If it were not for the Democrat votes in congress, the recent $162 billion dollars for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would have never passed. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This most recent New York Times Op Ed from Obama continues on with a pro-war position.  Obama is clear.  He wants a gradual redeployment of the majority of troops to fight other wars while calling for continuing keep some troops fighting in Iraq. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Blackwater mercenaries fighting in Iraq Obama also refuses to support a ban, and promised to continue to use Blackwater when he becomes president (Democracy Now!, June 2, 2008).
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The US government has no right to be in Iraq murdering, torturing, and humiliating their people while making massive profits for the military industry and other contractors.  The U.S. is attempting to privatize Iraqi oil to eliminate Iraqi control over this most important resource and give U.S. and British oil companies control over the oil.  The puppet government the US has set up is a death squad government that should not be protected by U.S. troops.  Continued occupation of Iraq is a continued attempt to subvert the national will of the Iraqi people and it must end immediately, yet Obama's plan is to only leave, partially, after a couple years, and this, assuredly, only after the oil law has been passed and oil ownership handed over to the multi-nationals.  This, as Obama's own use of the term "redeployment" indicates, will free U.S. troops up for other oil wars.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA’S “PHASED REDEPLOYMENT”! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. OUT OF IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN NOW!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;U.S. HANDS OFF THE WORLD!
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&lt;br/&gt;Another major cause for war in the Middle East is U.S. military support to the racist regime in Israel.  Obama promises to continue this practice.  At AIPAC Obama promised:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;“Defense cooperation between the United States and Israel is a model of success, and must be deepened. As president, I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade — investments to Israel's security that will not be tied to any other nation. First, we must approve the foreign aid request for 2009. Going forward, we can enhance our cooperation on missile defense. We should export military equipment to our ally Israel under the same guidelines as NATO.”
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This despite Israel’s recent war of aggression against Lebanon, a war that, if it were not for the heroic resistance of Hezbollah fighters, would have ended in another Israeli occupation like Israel’s brutal occupation of Lebanon that took place in the 1980’s.  That occupation included crimes against humanity committed by Israeli and allied Christian Phalangists when they massacred thousands of Palestinians in cold-blood at the Sabra and Chatila refugee camps.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, Obama’s speech made no reference to the suffering faced by the Palestinian people as a result of the creation and continuation of the Jewish state.  Israel is a state that created a homeland for one people, through force and violence, by denying the homeland of Palestine’s original inhabitants.  Also missing from Obama’s speech was the brutal blockade currently being carried out against Palestinians in Gaza.  Obama expressed zero sympathy for the Palestinians and other Arabs, only promises to supply Israel with the weapons to kill more Arabs.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Massive U.S. military aid helps keep the repressive governments of Israel, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia in power.  Instead of promising more U.S. military aid, that aid should be cut off to better allow the people of the Middle East to decide their own future.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NO TO OBAMA’S PROMISE OF BILLIONS TO ISRAEL!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Another indicator of where Obama stands on imperialist war is how he sees the past wars of the United States.  Of H. W. Bush and his war on Iraq Obama recently stated, "I have enormous sympathy for the foreign policy of George H. W. Bush. I don't have a lot of complaints about their handling of Desert Storm." (Barack Obama, from David Brooks article, "Obama Admires Bush, NY Times, May 16, 2008)
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Leading up to that war, Kuwait was slant drilling into Iraqi Ramaila oil fields. Iraq saw this as theft. In addition, the Kuwaiti monarchy went against OPEC quotas and increased oil production by 40%, bringing down the price of oil on the world market, something Saddam Hussein called economic warfare. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Before Iraq invaded Kuwait, Saddam Hussein was, at that time an ally of the United States in the wars against Iran and the Kurds.  He had received massive U.S. military backing in those wars.  When he assembled troops on the Kuwaiti border, US ambassador April Glaspie met with Saddam Hussein and told him, "We have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait." 
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&lt;br/&gt;Saddam Hussein saw this as a green light from his powerful U.S. ally to invade Kuwait. Soon after, he did. 
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&lt;br/&gt;But Saddam Hussein was set up by the United States because the U.S. wanted a war. The reason for this was to prop up the profits of the military industrial complex. The Soviet Union had just fallen, and the military industries needed an excuse to keep spending billions of dollars of our tax dollars on the military. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Saddam Hussein was the perfect boogie-man to meet their needs. The U.S. corporate media pointed out that he had murdered tens of thousands of Kurds, never mentioning why they were silent when the operations were taking place with weapons supplied by the United States. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The U.S. corporate media also claimed that premature babies in Kuwait had been taken out of incubators and left to die so that the incubators could be shipped back to Baghdad. The whole story was a complete fabrication, and the corporate media even admitted it after the war, but the lie served its purpose in swaying many people who otherwise questioned going to war for the repressive Kuwaiti monarchy. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, President H.W. Bush claimed as reason for war, "Within three days, 120,000 Iraqi troops with 850 tanks had poured into Kuwait and moved south to threaten Saudi Arabia. It was then that I decided to act to check that aggression." This was based on supposed Pentagon satellite photos. Yet, from commercial satellite photos acquired by the St. Petersburg Times, this was proven to be a lie, the desert Bush senior and the Pentagon referred to was nothing but empty desert. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;While playing up false stories of baby killers and the new Hitler that was going to march across the Middle East, the U.S. corporate media ignored Kuwait’s theft of Iraqi oil as well the historic claim of Iraq to Kuwait, with Kuwait being a construct of British imperialism to divide the territory and limit Iraqi access to the sea. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, the U.S. corporate media completely ignored the repressive nature of the Kuwaiti monarchy that U.S. troops were sent to fight and die for. The vast majority of those living in Kuwait were denied the right to vote and other more basic rights. This included women and people labeled foreigners, many of whom had been in Kuwait for generations. Some who had ancestors in Kuwait prior to 1920 were even denied Kuwaiti citizenship. Palestinian workers built modern Kuwait, but they were kept in second class status. This situation was so bad that many Palestinians aided the Iraqi troops and saw them as a liberation army. After the U.S. re-installed the monarchy, most Kuwaiti Palestinians were driven out of Kuwait. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;For women in Kuwait the Iraqi invasion also brought hope. Unlike all of the US supported governments and forces in the Arab World, Iraqi women have many rights found nowhere else in the Arab World except in the Asian republics of the former Soviet Union. Under Saddam Hussein, over 50% of Iraqi doctors were women. Iraqi women were allowed to walk unescorted in the streets. They were allowed to drive. Iraqi women could even freely criticize men. In addition, Iraqi women had the right to work and control their own funds. This was in stark contrast to the treatment of women under the repressive monarchy of Kuwait where women had / have no rights what-so-ever.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In carrying out the war to defend the Kuwaiti monarchy the U.S. used depleted uranium (DU) weapons that have contaminated Iraqi water, soil, and food with radiation.  This radiation has caused large numbers of birth defects and other diseases for the Iraqi people.  In addition, U.S. soldiers were not given protection and, as a result, became ill in massive numbers with the symptoms of radiation poisoning.  Like Agent Orange poisoning in Vietnam, the military brass pretended they had no clue to the cause of this illness that became dubbed “Persian Gulf War Syndrome”.  Yet this was later exposed as a lie when reports were made public warning the military brass of the health risks of DU weapons before the war.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Government demographer Beth Osborn Duponte lost her job when she estimated the civilian loss of life in Iraq to be around 83,000, 13,000 directly from U.S. bombing and another 70,000 civilians dead as a result of U.S. targeting of civilian necessities such as water treatment facilities, medical facilities and supplies, and the electric power grid.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, Duponte estimated deaths of Iraqi troops to be around 40,000.  Many of the Iraqi troops killed were buried alive.  In defense of U.S. actions Col. Lon Maggart said, "People somehow have the notion that burying guys alive is nastier than blowing them up with hand grenades or sticking them in gut with bayonets, well it's not." 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So Obama has no problems with Bush targeting civilians, irradiating U.S. troops and the Iraqi people, burying people alive, and re-installing a repressive monarchy in Kuwait.  In addition, Obama wants to escalate the war in Afghanistan, send troops into Pakistan, is already threatening Iran with war, will never fully pull out of Iraq and only promises to pull out most troops in two years after an extended gradual re-deployment of troops to other wars, will continue to use murderous Blackwater mercenaries in Iraq, and promises billions in military aid to Israel.  Enough said.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Obama will be nominated the presidential candidate of the Democrat Party on August 24-28 at the Democrat Party National Convention (DNC).  In opposition to the DNC convention, protests are being organized, with organizers stating:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;"On August 24-28, the ruling elite and their defenders will converge in Denver Colorado, in an attempt to recuperate the gains of global social movements and produce another myth of progress. Lip service to global warming, the economic crisis and the war will endow them with the magic to spread amnesia across the hearts and minds of North America... Outside those doors, however, so many will exclaim, smash and sing a harmonious ‘no.’...” 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;In addition, there will be protests at the equally pro-war Republican National convention being held September 1-4 in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Although virtually ignored by the corporate press, there are other presidential candidates who are running in opposition to the Democrats and Republicans who are for immediate withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.  These include Cynthia McKinney running on the Green Party ticket, Brian Moore of the Socialist Party, and Gloria La Riva on the Party for Socialism and Liberation ticket, and Róger Calero on the Socialist Workers Party ticket.  Corporate controlled elections and media assure that these authentic anti-war candidates will not get elected, but these candidacies do help expose people to positions of politicians not controlled by corporate interests and the pro-war Democrat Party machine.  In addition, through some of these campaigns, more people become exposed to socialist ideas and the ideas of class struggle methods to bring about change. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;A vote for Obama or McCain is a vote for war!  So that's what, in active terms, you're really voting for when you vote Democrat or Republican. Those of us voting for third parties, or refusing to vote, will not change the country directly through the elections either, but at least we won’t be dumb enough to vote for own oppressors and exploiters that are waging imperialist war.  Instead, we will have the sense to be working for something different.  
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And those of us in unions should be angry that our hard earned union dues are being squandered on the Democrat Party when that money should instead be put into stronger strike funds to strengthen our ability to fights for better contracts, for socialized medicine, and for bigger strikes against the wars.
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&lt;br/&gt;Build the Anti-War Movement!  For More Strikes for Immediate Withdrawal Like the May 1st ILWU Anti-War Strike That Shut Down 29 Ports!  Support Soldiers Refusing to Fight Including the 10,000 U.S. Soldiers Who Have Gone AWOL!  Build the Socialist Anti-Imperialist Movement!  U.S. Hands off Iran!  U.S. Out of Iraq and Afghanistan Now!   
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;DNC Disruption 2008
&lt;br/&gt;http://dncdisruption08.org/
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&lt;br/&gt;RNC Welcoming Committee
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      <title>Symbols vs. Substance by Mumia Abu-Jamal</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;[col. writ 4/12/08] (c) '08 Mumia Abu-Jamal
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Our national politics is largely the stuff of illusion.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    It is the stuff of spin. It is the manipulation of images to pluck the heartstrings, or to stoke the furnaces of emotion.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Any emotion will do: love, hate, fear, all are but instruments upon which politicians will play to move people to the polls, to get them either to vote for them, or against their opponents.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    What all of this really means in the day-to-day lives of many of the voters, is actually quite minimal, for politicians don't really care about what voters want; they care about those who can afford them -- those who pay them well for their services.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    In essence, politics is a business, and voters are merely bare necessities.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    We see this in the vast, obscene amounts of money raised for virtually all political offices.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    At bottom, politics is the elevation of symbol over substance, for it seeks to create the illusion of change, while leaving unchanged the essential power relations at the lower levels of society.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Politics is great for changing forms, but it stumbles at changing essentials.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    We've seen that in South Africa, where the faces of those in political power have changed dramatically -- in its starkest sense, from palest white to darkest black -- and yet those who hold financial power, immense wealth, and thus, those who control politicians, remain predominantly white -- and remain in ultimate control.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Conversely, for the Black urban and rural poor, their lives are almost as hopeless as before, for what has changed is that a Black middle class has arisen into their political ascendency.
&lt;br/&gt;    
&lt;br/&gt;    Here in the U.S., we often boast about Blacks having more and more political offices in local, state and federal government posts. Yet, if this is so (and it is) why are our lives so miserable, so threatened, so endangered? Why are our communities so dysfunctional?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Why are Black urban schools so under-performing?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Why are Black and Latino homeowners the bulk of folks losing their homes to foreclosures?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Why are so many of our lives nightmares of survival in the midst of plenty?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    How is it that more Black politicians ultimately means less Black political power?
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    It's because black-faced politicians can best advance the aims of white economic supremacy.  For they are but employees of white wealth, who do the duty of those who can afford them. That great French observer of American politics, Alexis de Tocqueville, aptly noted, "Than politics the American citizen knows no higher profession -- for it is the most lucrative."
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&lt;br/&gt;    Black politicians confuse us with their presence -- not their power.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    For power is the ability to make change in the conditions of people's lives (for the better), to represent their interests, and to gain resources for the betterment of 
&lt;br/&gt;Black people and their communities.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;    Presence is merely being there, being there in the place of a white politician, doing essentially nothing differently.
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;--(c) '08 maj
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&lt;br/&gt;********
&lt;br/&gt;Mumia Abu-Jamal is a political prisoner in the United States, framed by the Philadelphia Police.  For more on the case of Mumia Abu-Jamal read:
&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;Top Ten “Fry Mumia” Myths Debunked
&lt;br/&gt;(Myth #1) “Five eyewitnesses saw Mumia shoot officer Faulkner.”
&lt;br/&gt;http://indybay.org/newsitems/2007/07/19/18436405.php
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&lt;br/&gt;Also See:
&lt;br/&gt;Closing Our Eyes Won’t Make Racial and Ethnic Inequalities Disappear
&lt;br/&gt;by STEVEN ARGUE 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/01/21/18473855.php
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:09:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>NAZIS TO ATTEMPT RALLY, WASHINGTON DC ON 19 APRIL, 2008</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;[ In order to see the video and the comments to this posting from indymedia click on the link above ]
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&lt;br/&gt;Youtube video:
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&lt;br/&gt;Assemble at 11:30 AM on the Southwest corner of Constitution Ave NW and 14th St NW 
&lt;br/&gt;Neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement Plans to Rally on National Mall near Washington Monument
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&lt;br/&gt;On, April 19, 2008, at 12 PM (noon) the neo-Nazi, white-supremacist organization known as the “National Socialist Movement” is planning to march and rally “against illegal immigration” on the National Mall in Washington, DC, on the North Side of the Washington Monument. The monument is located to the South of Constitution Avenue NW, between 15th St NW and 17th St NW. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Coming on the heels of the racist immigration ordinance passed in Prince William County, Virginia (and similar laws passed elsewhere in the US), and coupled with the alarming rise in the number of known hate groups in the United States, we feel that the march of these racist bigots must be confronted vigorously, and with strength. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Despite claims that those opposed to immigration are concerned about “the rule of law”, terrorist groups such as the Ku Klux Klan and the National Socialist Movement have always attempted to blame immigrants, African-Americans, Jews, non-heterosexual people, and all people of color for what they perceive to be “societal problems”. It is clear that their hatred is based on racial prejudice, and the law is merely an excuse to spread their white supremacist beliefs. We believe that it is not any coincidence that xenophobes and white supremacists share views on immigration, and immigrants. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The National Socialist Movement, according to their website, are “America's Nazi Party”, and are “…inspired by our Fuhrer Adolf Hitler.” The group is currently, according to the Anti-Defamation League, the largest neo-Nazi group in the United States, largely due to the implosion of several other neo-Nazi groups. 
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&lt;br/&gt;They are the same organization that, in order to stir up hatred, marched in Toledo, Ohio (in 2005) in a neighborhood largely made up of people of color. They did indeed, get a reaction, as riots ensued, and the Nazis, and the police protecting them, were run out of the area for a time. 
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&lt;br/&gt;We invite all those opposed to fascism and racism to come and confront this very real, and dangerous neo-Nazi group. Gather at 11:30 AM on the Southwest corner of Constitution Ave NW and 14th St NW (the Mall side), to assemble before confronting the fascists. &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>"Tribe" Backs Anti-Palestinian Racists</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Message from "Free Palestine End Zionism" moderator:
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&lt;br/&gt;This is being sent to you because you were a member of my tribe, Free Palestine End Zionism. I would like you to know that I was notified today by a representative of tribe.net that my tribe was "anti-semitic" and that they removed it! 
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&lt;br/&gt;I am sending this so you will know why the tribe does not exist any more and so you will bear witness to the evident censorship and lack of the freedom of speech on tribe.net, plus the fabricated excuse to silence my tribe.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;do any of you guys know any way i can get into active anarchy?..not bombs and stuff, but demonstrations and the like...although a little sabotage operation would be pretty fun...&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:59:04 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;br/&gt;please go to this website to send a fax to the related US
&lt;br/&gt;congress and senate members to Request a Congressional Hearing on the
&lt;br/&gt;Sujiatun case. it's a very easy to Fill out form, With just a click, the fax will be sent.
&lt;br/&gt;thank you,
&lt;br/&gt;joshua
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;here is the link:
&lt;br/&gt;http://publicpetition.unvcc.com/UN/index.php
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;there is more information about Sujiatun on the website:
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.theepochtimes.com/211,111,,1.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>New Witness Confirms Existence of Chinese Concentration Camp, Says Organs Removed from Live Prisoners</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;Please help to end this horrible persectuion. knowledge is our greatest weapon, please share this information. together in peace we can make a difference. Falun Dafa is a peaceful meditation practice that teaches putting others before yourself, kindness, always telling the truth and being tolerant of others. We are literally being killed for being good people. The national media has been of little help because of trade issues with China. It is up to us to let the world know. Please help us.
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&lt;br/&gt;By Ji Da
&lt;br/&gt;The Epoch Times Mar 17, 2006
&lt;br/&gt;www.theepochtimes.com
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The witness, a former employee at the Liaoning Thrombosis Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, and says the bodies of Falun Gong practitioners are cremated immediately after the organs are removed. (The Epoch Times)
&lt;br/&gt;[High-resolution image ] A former employee of Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine told The Epoch Times during a recent interview that the Sujiatun Concentration Camp in China was actually a part of a hospital. The concentration camp has engaged in taking organs from Falun Gong practitioners when they were still alive and selling the organs. Since 2001, the concentration camp has secretly detained approximately 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners, none of whom have been able to leave the camp alive. The hospital removed many kidneys, livers, and corneas from the practitioners. After the organ removal, the practitioners were thrown into an incinerator, which was converted from a boiler. Their ashes were dumped together with burned charcoal.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Organs from Three Quarters of the 6,000 People Were Removed
&lt;br/&gt;Those whose organs were removed were in various states of health. Because many of the victims were illegally detained, there was neither an arrest warrant nor identification as to who these people actually were. Often after their organs were removed, nobody claimed the bodies. Sometimes their bodies were picked up by crooks who pretended to be their family members.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;About three-quarters of the 6,000 people died after their hearts, kidneys, corneas, or skin was removed; their bodies were then burned. This witness, whose family member participated in the removal of Falun Gong practitioners' organs, said that approximately 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners remain in the hospital. She was afraid that the authorities would kill all of them to destroy evidence.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine is located at 49 Xuesong Road, Sujiatun, Shenyang City, Liaoning Province, China. It was the first hospital in China to specialize in the heart, the brain, and surrounding blood vessels. The hospital is composed of several organizations, including the Liaoning Traditional Chinese Medicine College Teaching Hospital and the Shenyang Thrombosis Treatment Center.
&lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;Concentration Camp Details
&lt;br/&gt;The hospital site is 21,087 square meters, with 17,564 square meters of building area. It employs 460 people in 24 departments and 20 specialized offices. Information from the Chinese government shows that the hospital was established in December 1988, and was formerly named the Shenyang Research Institute of Thrombosis and Liaoning Province Thrombosis Treatment Center of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine. In June 1998, it was renamed China Traditional Medicine Thrombosis Treatment Center.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Chinese Business Morning View said in a story on July 4, 2004, that a farm worker died of abnormal causes in Sujiatun, Shenyang and was later cremated. The death certificate was provided by the Chinese Medicine Thrombosis Treatment Center in Sujiatun. The news caused a stir in China.
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;A copy of the death certificate. (The Epoch Times Archives Photo)Below is the transcript of an Epoch Times reporter's interview with the former staff member of the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine in Sujiantun, Shenyang City. Questions were posed by the reporter and answered by the staff member being interviewed.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Epoch Times: Did the hospital's medical staff inside the concentration camp know about this?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Answer: This hospital has a small number of officials and some doctors involved secretively in the operation of organ harvesting. Some other staff in the hospital knew about this, but this is absolutely a taboo [to talk about]. They all are afraid of being killed or courting trouble, so they all avoid the issue. Only those highly trusted doctors could be chosen to be the surgeons for organ harvesting operations.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;ET: Were Falun Gong practitioners alive when their organs were harvested? Did their families know about this?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Answer: Falun Gong practitioners who were imprisoned there came mostly from Dabei Prison, Masanjia Labor Camp, and other prisons in Shenyang, or they were Falun Gong practitioners arrested in parks or residential homes. Because they refused to denounce Falun Gong, they were arrested without formal warrants, and their families did not know their situation. Many did not even have their names [recorded]. In addition, since the Chinese authority exercises a policy of "not being responsible" for killing Falun Gong practitioners, the death of Falun Gong practitioners is not a very big issue for prisons. The Chinese Communist Party persecutes Falun Gong, [but] these medical personnel were told Falun Gong practitioners were facing death because they killed people, or they were sentenced to death because of crimes, or they had become insane from practicing Falun Gong.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Those Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested came from several types.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Organs harvested from live bodies are worth far more than organs taken from dead bodies. Many Falun Gong practitioners were still alive when their organs were taken. After their organs were cut out, some of these people were thrown directly into the crematorium to be burnt, thus leaving no evidence. For some others, after their organs were stolen, the doctor sewed up the wound and asked the family or family representative to give a signature for cremation. Family members did not know at all that the dead had their organs taken out.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Furthermore, there were some healthy Falun Gong practitioners in prisons in other areas who were injected—without their knowledge—with psychoactive drugs that made their minds confused. They then were transferred to Sujiantun concentration camp to suffer further torture, till in the end their organs were harvested and their bodies were cremated in secret.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Among the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were harvested, some were weak and some were healthy. Since most of them were illegally arrested, there were no arrest warrants or identification cards. After their organs were taken out while they were still alive, no one came to claim their bodies; or [sometimes] people using fake identities claimed their bodies.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;None of these people have come out [of the concentration camp] alive; three-quarters of these 6,000 people have died, having their hearts, kidneys, retinas, and skins harvested and their bodies disposed of. I think now about 2,000 Falun Gong practitioners are still in this hospital, and I am afraid now that the authority will destroy all evidence and kill them.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Question: How did you know these things? Were you yourself a doctor involved in organ harvesting?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Answer: I worked at the Liaoning Provincial Thrombosis Hospital of Integrated Chinese and Western Medicine, Shenyang. This is exactly where this concentration camp is located. One of my family members was involved in the operation to harvest Falun Gong practitioners' organs. This has brought great pain to our family.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Question: Please tell us what you knew about.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Answer: From 2001, our hospital started to detain Falun Gong practitioners. At the beginning, these people were detained in the single-storey houses in the back yard of the hospital. Later, the hospital authorities demolished the single-storey houses, and it was unknown where in the hospital the Falun Gong practitioners were transferred. Many staff of the hospital discussed in private that these Falun Gong practitioners had been secretly transferred to the underground chambers of the hospital. According to some people working inside the hospital, the hospital has a huge system of secret underground chambers.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;At the time when we went to work there, the person in charge of logistics and purchasing in the hospital said that the quantity of disposable sterile gloves used for operations and daily supplies that the hospital authorities asked to be purchased had increased dramatically. The logistics people estimated based on the scale of purchases at that time that there were at least 6,000 Falun Gong practitioners detained in this hospital.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;These Falun Gong practitioners were not detained in the 4-story building under the in-patient department and administration at the front of the hospital, in order to keep the hospital staff from seeing them at all. We only occasionally saw Falun Gong practitioners being sent on a mobile intensive care bed to the first floor for physical examinations. These people were very weak. For the majority of the Falun Gong practitioners, nobody knew where they were being secretly kept. While they still did not know where these people were kept, some staff inquired to the hospital authorities about why so much food and so many sterile gloves and daily supplies were purchased. The hospital authorities said, "You only need to do your job well. There is no need for you to ask any other questions."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Starting in 2001, a family member of mine participated in organ-harvesting operations. My family member tried to keep me from knowing about this at the beginning. The hospital authorities selected doctors they trust in different aspects to perform the secretive operations. After a period of time, I found that my family member was in a lot pain, often had nightmares, and appeared panic-stricken. After repeated inquiries, this family member told me the truth. The leader of the hospital had asked my family member to participate in the organ harvesting operations on Falun Gong practitioners as early as 2001. It was 2003 when my family member confessed. A few years after, my family member felt so much pain from participating in this incident that it was impossible to continue with the evildoing. My family member decided to go abroad to get away from this matter.
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&lt;br/&gt;My family member also told me: "you don't understand my suffering; those Falun Gong practitioners were alive. It might be easier for me if they were dead, but they were alive."
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Were there any other doctors from the hospital taking part in the operations of cutting out Falun Gong practitioners' organs?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Answer: I know there were some. All these things have been carried out secretly. Many doctors at our hospital involved were practicum doctors transferred from other hospitals. Because the government does not want to be responsible for Falun Gong practitioners' bodies and lives, their lives are treated as garbage by the regime, and their bodies were used in experiments by new doctors doing their practitcums.
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&lt;br/&gt;Many doctors came and left the hospital because they suffered a lot after having been involved in these kinds of things. They either requested to be transferred to other places, or changed their names. Some might have been killed to eliminate the evidence, their identity files were taken out from the hospital's filing system, or their names were changed. Nobody knows where the doctors have gone.
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&lt;br/&gt;The hospital staff all know that the rear part of the hospital is forbidden. It is always watched. The staff avoids talking about the place.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: It is said the hospital is equipped with an incinerator. The person whose organs were removed will be burned when he or she is still alive. Is that true?
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: The employees in our hospital call this place "the incinerator." Actually, it is a boiler room. Some poor farmers from nearby places were hired to work in the boiler room. They were penniless when they first came here. But they could scrape up some watches, finger rings, necklaces, and so on. The amount is not small. It is said by the employees in the hospital these jewelry and watches were collected from the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs had been removed when they were about to be thrown in the boiler to be burned. It is also said by the employees in the hospital, some were still alive when being thrown into the boiler.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Do they get injection of anesthetic when in surgery?
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: Yes. There is a cap to the anesthetic quantity used in mainland China's hospitals. Generally, the supply of anesthetic was determined according to the accommodation of the hospital. To the public, the number of patients in our care appears to be very small, and publicly reported number of surgical procedures performed is quite low. But the equipment and articles used in surgery are abundant. Because the amount of anesthetic is limited, these secret surgeries could not use the normal anesthetic doses. In order to save anesthetic, they economized on the anesthetic used in surgeries on these Falun Gong practitioners. The amount of anesthetic used was very small. However, many whose organs were removed were still alive. You can imagine the pain suffered by the Falun Gong practitioners whose organs were removed.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Are there any survivors among the 6,000 people detained since 2001?
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: Nobody has come out alive. The number of them gets smaller and smaller. The Falun Gong practitioners detained at Sujiatun are fewer now than before. But I believe that the sin of removing the organs of the Falun Gong practitioners is still continuing.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Where are these organs usually sold to? Do the higher authorities in the government know about this?
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: They are mainly sold to Thailand, but I believe they are also sold to other regions of the world. Nowadays, there are many patients in China who need human skin, corneas, and kidneys for organ transplant surgeries. Many patients have to wait in line to purchase organs. Currently, a kidney can be sold up to the price of 30,000 to 100,000 U.S. dollars. The profit from selling organs is simply too great. The people who benefit from this are not only the top leaders of hospital and the officials of the Chinese Communist Party's Heath Department. This is a crime present across the entire nation. People ranging from government officials to doctors to organ sellers are all involved in this and are profiting greatly.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Why did they target Falun Gong practitioners as the source of organs?
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: Because relatives of many Falun Gong practitioners don't even know that their family members were arrested. So if the Falun Gong practitioners are killed, there will be no one to come and claim their dead bodies.
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&lt;br/&gt;Question: Why did you want to expose this? This may bring great danger to you.
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&lt;br/&gt;Answer: I know that there are many Falun Gong practitioners who are currently detained at the hospital. I would like to expose this to the international community, so those who are not yet killed can be saved. Also, I would like to expose this as an atonement for my family.
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&lt;br/&gt;I am not a Falun Gong practitioner. But as a former staff member of the hospital, I have the responsibility to expose the truth, and let the world to save those Falun Gong practitioners who are still alive. Organs of some Falun Gong practitioners are still living on patients' bodies. I would like to call on all society to pay attention to this issue and stop this shocking crime.&lt;/div&gt;
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